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Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
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2 người leaders đều có big egos cho nên 0 ai chịu nhường ai nên đường ai nấy đi phải chia tay thôi!
Trump-Kim summit in Hanoi collapses after negotiations fail
US president says North Korea wanted all sanctions lifted for only partial denuclearisation
The second summit between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un ended in failure on Thursday with the two sides far apart on the central issues of disarmament and sanctions relief.
The abrupt end to the Hanoi meeting, which was cut short by several hours, was a setback from both leaders who had made long journeys – Kim by rail and Trump by air – in the expectation that a deal was within reach. There are no plans for a third summit, but the US has expressed willingness to continue talks at a lower level.
The collapse of the two leaders’ talks came suddenly. Late on Wednesday night the White House circulated detailed plans for negotiating sessions, a working lunch and a signing ceremony for a joint agreement. When the two leaders reconvened on Thursday morning, however, they appeared sombre and cautious about whether a deal was possible.
A few hours later, the summit was called off. The signing ceremony was cancelled and the official lunch left uneaten. Table settings and name cards went unused in the empty dining hall of the Metropole Hotel, the summit venue, as the leaders made their way back to their own hotels.
In his version of events, Trump said the deal broke down because Kim wanted complete sanctions relief for dismantling the main nuclear complex at Yongbyon, but the US wanted other nuclear facilities, including covert sites, disabled as well.
“It was about the sanctions basically,” Trump said at a press conference in Hanoi. “They wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn’t do that ... Sometimes you have to walk, and this was just one of those times.”
“There is a gap. We have to have sanctions,” he said. “There is a gap. We have to have sanctions and he wants to denuke. But he wants to just do areas that are less important than the areas that we want.”
Trump made clear that the current status quo would continue, with North Korea continuing to suspend nuclear and missile tests, while the US would not take part in joint military exercises with South Korea, which the US president said he was opposed to anyway.
“I gave that up quite a while ago because it costs us $100m to do it. I hated to see it. I thought it was unfair,” Trump said, saying South Korea should shoulder more of the costs. “Exercising is fun and it’s nice they play their war games. I’m not saying its not necessary. On some levels it is. On other levels it’s not.”
Trump remained protective of the North Korean leader and the relationship between the two men. “We spent all day with Kim Jong-un,” he said. “He’s quite a guy and quite a character. And our relationship is very strong.”
He even defended Kim over the death of the US student Otto Warmbier, who was sent back home from North Korea seriously ill in June 2017. “He says he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word,” he said.
Trump gave the most detailed public account to date of the central disagreements that have dogged the negotiations. He confirmed that the US side had confronted Pyongyang with US intelligence about covert nuclear facilities outside Yongbyon and demanded they be put on the negotiating table.
“We know the country very well, every inch of that country,” he said Yongbyon, “while very big, wasn’t enough”.
“We had to have more than that, because there were other things that we haven’t talked about, that we found, that we found a long time ago, but people didn’t know about,” he went on, making clear that one of the sites he was talking about was a second covert uranium enrichment programme. “We brought many points up that I think they were surprised that we knew.”
He said relaxing all sanctions in return for Yongbyon would been meant giving up leverage “that has taken so long to build.” .
The US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said the breakdown of talks was partly caused by differences over the sequences of nuclear disarmament and sanctions relief. The US wanted North Korea to put its current arsenal, thought to consist of several dozen warheads, some mounted on missiles, on the negotiating table as well, he said.
Trump flew out of Hanoi in the late afternoon, while Kim stayed in the city for talks with the Vietnamese leadership and will make the 70 hour car and train back to Pyongyang on the weekend. It was unclear whether he would stop in Beijing to meet the Chinese president, Xi Jinping.
Trump said he would call his regional allies, the Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, as soon as he boarded Air Force One.
The breakdown of the summit is a political disaster for Moon, who had been counting on progress that would lift international sanctions restricting trade and investment between North and South Korea.
A South Korean diplomat said Seoul was stunned by the result. “It was shock. We are trying to figure out what happened,” the diplomat said. “We need to watch what happened behind the scenes.”
2 người leaders đều có big egos cho nên 0 ai chịu nhường ai nên đường ai nấy đi phải chia tay thôi!
Trump-Kim summit in Hanoi collapses after negotiations fail
US president says North Korea wanted all sanctions lifted for only partial denuclearisation
The second summit between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un ended in failure on Thursday with the two sides far apart on the central issues of disarmament and sanctions relief.
The abrupt end to the Hanoi meeting, which was cut short by several hours, was a setback from both leaders who had made long journeys – Kim by rail and Trump by air – in the expectation that a deal was within reach. There are no plans for a third summit, but the US has expressed willingness to continue talks at a lower level.
The collapse of the two leaders’ talks came suddenly. Late on Wednesday night the White House circulated detailed plans for negotiating sessions, a working lunch and a signing ceremony for a joint agreement. When the two leaders reconvened on Thursday morning, however, they appeared sombre and cautious about whether a deal was possible.
A few hours later, the summit was called off. The signing ceremony was cancelled and the official lunch left uneaten. Table settings and name cards went unused in the empty dining hall of the Metropole Hotel, the summit venue, as the leaders made their way back to their own hotels.
In his version of events, Trump said the deal broke down because Kim wanted complete sanctions relief for dismantling the main nuclear complex at Yongbyon, but the US wanted other nuclear facilities, including covert sites, disabled as well.
“It was about the sanctions basically,” Trump said at a press conference in Hanoi. “They wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn’t do that ... Sometimes you have to walk, and this was just one of those times.”
“There is a gap. We have to have sanctions,” he said. “There is a gap. We have to have sanctions and he wants to denuke. But he wants to just do areas that are less important than the areas that we want.”
Trump made clear that the current status quo would continue, with North Korea continuing to suspend nuclear and missile tests, while the US would not take part in joint military exercises with South Korea, which the US president said he was opposed to anyway.
“I gave that up quite a while ago because it costs us $100m to do it. I hated to see it. I thought it was unfair,” Trump said, saying South Korea should shoulder more of the costs. “Exercising is fun and it’s nice they play their war games. I’m not saying its not necessary. On some levels it is. On other levels it’s not.”
Trump remained protective of the North Korean leader and the relationship between the two men. “We spent all day with Kim Jong-un,” he said. “He’s quite a guy and quite a character. And our relationship is very strong.”
He even defended Kim over the death of the US student Otto Warmbier, who was sent back home from North Korea seriously ill in June 2017. “He says he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word,” he said.
Trump gave the most detailed public account to date of the central disagreements that have dogged the negotiations. He confirmed that the US side had confronted Pyongyang with US intelligence about covert nuclear facilities outside Yongbyon and demanded they be put on the negotiating table.
“We know the country very well, every inch of that country,” he said Yongbyon, “while very big, wasn’t enough”.
“We had to have more than that, because there were other things that we haven’t talked about, that we found, that we found a long time ago, but people didn’t know about,” he went on, making clear that one of the sites he was talking about was a second covert uranium enrichment programme. “We brought many points up that I think they were surprised that we knew.”
He said relaxing all sanctions in return for Yongbyon would been meant giving up leverage “that has taken so long to build.” .
The US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said the breakdown of talks was partly caused by differences over the sequences of nuclear disarmament and sanctions relief. The US wanted North Korea to put its current arsenal, thought to consist of several dozen warheads, some mounted on missiles, on the negotiating table as well, he said.
Trump flew out of Hanoi in the late afternoon, while Kim stayed in the city for talks with the Vietnamese leadership and will make the 70 hour car and train back to Pyongyang on the weekend. It was unclear whether he would stop in Beijing to meet the Chinese president, Xi Jinping.
Trump said he would call his regional allies, the Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, as soon as he boarded Air Force One.
The breakdown of the summit is a political disaster for Moon, who had been counting on progress that would lift international sanctions restricting trade and investment between North and South Korea.
A South Korean diplomat said Seoul was stunned by the result. “It was shock. We are trying to figure out what happened,” the diplomat said. “We need to watch what happened behind the scenes.”
ga10
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
không phải Trump và Ủn mà là Mỹ và BH
BH nó đâu có ngu bỏ vũ khí hạt nhân khi không có gì bảo đảm
If you were him , you do the same
mà đó giờ là vậy
BH nó đâu có ngu bỏ vũ khí hạt nhân khi không có gì bảo đảm
If you were him , you do the same
mà đó giờ là vậy
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
8DonCo wrote:không phải Trump và Ủn mà là Mỹ và BH
BH nó đâu có ngu bỏ vũ khí hạt nhân khi không có gì bảo đảm
If you were him , you do the same
mà đó giờ là vậy
Nếu vậy thì hẹn hò đi summit làm chi nếu đôi bên 0 ai willing to negotiate? Làm cho anh TVK tốn nước miếng làm thông dịch viên!
ga10
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
ga10 wrote:8DonCo wrote:không phải Trump và Ủn mà là Mỹ và BH
BH nó đâu có ngu bỏ vũ khí hạt nhân khi không có gì bảo đảm
If you were him , you do the same
mà đó giờ là vậy
Nếu vậy thì hẹn hò đi summit làm chi nếu đôi bên 0 ai willing to negotiate? Làm cho anh TVK tốn nước miếng làm thông dịch viên!
tui có nói before, just for fun, short vacation and you pay for it, that it is
hơn nữa thế kỷ nay rồi, nothing is new
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Thằng Ủn muốn bỏ con tép bắt nguyên con tôm hùm, nó nghĩ Mỹ ngu dễ bị dụ
KatN
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
KatN wrote:Thằng Ủn muốn bỏ con tép bắt nguyên con tôm hùm, nó nghĩ Mỹ ngu dễ bị dụ
nó cũng đâu có ngu, bỏ vũ khí hạt nhân roi Mỹ giết nó sao
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
KatN wrote:Thằng Ủn muốn bỏ con tép bắt nguyên con tôm hùm, nó nghĩ Mỹ ngu dễ bị dụ
Ở mỹ bà con ăn steak, tôm hùm bán qua tq hết rồi cô ơi.
BH đi theo đường của tq chỉ dẫn thì làm sao nó dễ dàng nói bỏ là bỏ. Nga, tq bán cho nó all the material mà. Iran cung cấp uranium mà. Chẳng vậy tq đưa cho bh những cái communication equiment nữa. Người dân bh không có sài thôi chứ nội bộ bh đã có sài qua rồi
vietnam4all
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Nó chỉ có cái last card (nuclear) nên phải ráng trying to make a deal thôi. Trump thì mind đang bị occupied về vụ Michael Cohen testimony yesterday muốn về nhà trắng lại để coi Fox News nên không còn tinh thần negotiate chuyện quốc gia nữa
KatN
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
không làm gì được ổng đâu, ổng đang có POWER mà , tụi CH cũng protect him tới cùng, ngày hôm qua Cohen còn nói sao tui CH không hỏi gì về Trump trong khi đang bàn luận về Trump
hết nhiệm kỳ thì không biết à nhe
hết nhiệm kỳ thì không biết à nhe
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
KatN wrote:Nó chỉ có cái last card (nuclear) nên phải ráng trying to make a deal thôi. Trump thì mind đang bị occupied về vụ Michael Cohen testimony yesterday muốn về nhà trắng lại để coi Fox News nên không còn tinh thần negotiate chuyện quốc gia nữa
Bé Kat xuyên tạc Trump, bạn thân của tui hén . Khi phóng viên hỏi Ủn về việc huỷ bỏ theo đuổi trương trình hạt nhân thì Ủn có trả lời : Tôi hoan nghênh , hoàn toàn hoan nghênh, rất hoan nghênh. Chớ không tôi ngồi xe lửa trên 60 tiếng đồng hồ ê cả đờ ít đến đây làm gì ?
Khi phóng viên quay qua hỏi Trump sao chưa bỏ cấm vận bắc hàn : BỞI VÌ TÔI KHÔNG THÍCH, BỞI VÌ TÔI CHƯA THÍCH . Sau đó Trump lên máy bay về ngủ với vợ . Chuyện có nhiêu đó thôi .
Floridian
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Floridian wrote:KatN wrote:Nó chỉ có cái last card (nuclear) nên phải ráng trying to make a deal thôi. Trump thì mind đang bị occupied về vụ Michael Cohen testimony yesterday muốn về nhà trắng lại để coi Fox News nên không còn tinh thần negotiate chuyện quốc gia nữa
Bé Kat xuyên tạc Trump, bạn thân của tui hén . Khi phóng viên hỏi Ủn về việc huỷ bỏ theo đuổi trương trình hạt nhân thì Ủn có trả lời : Tôi hoan nghênh , hoàn toàn hoan nghênh, rất hoan nghênh. Chớ không tôi ngồi xe lửa trên 60 tiếng đồng hồ ê cả đờ ít đến đây làm gì ?
Khi phóng viên quay qua hỏi Trump sao chưa bỏ cấm vận bắc hàn : BỞI VÌ TÔI KHÔNG THÍCH, BỞI VÌ TÔI CHƯA THÍCH . Sau đó Trump lên máy bay về ngủ với vợ . Chuyện có nhiêu đó thôi .
Thông tin chính thức này do bác Kỵ tường thuật lại . Ai muốn kiểm chứng kiếm ổng mà hỏi đi nhá .
Floridian
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
VN chuẩn bị tiệc sẳn để ăn mùng ký kêt Trump Ủn nhưng never happen
A view of the table in the room which was supposed to host a working lunch between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, that was cancelled, during the second U.S.-North Korea summit at the Metropole Hotel in Hanoi
A view of the table in the room which was supposed to host a working lunch between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, that was cancelled, during the second U.S.-North Korea summit at the Metropole Hotel in Hanoi
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
8DonCo wrote:VN chuẩn bị tiệc sẳn để ăn mùng ký kêt Trump Ủn nhưng never happen
A view of the table in the room which was supposed to host a working lunch between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, that was cancelled, during the second U.S.-North Korea summit at the Metropole Hotel in Hanoi
Hotel được 1 phen lời to, mang đồ ăn nấu ra bán cho người khác mà vẫn được trả tiền
KatN
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Trời fb, báo chí còn lon tin đãi nào là steak với gan vịt, soup đồ biển, gỏi, chè hạt sen
vietnam4all
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
vietnam4all wrote:Trời fb, báo chí còn lon tin đãi nào là steak với gan vịt, soup đồ biển, gỏi, chè hạt sen
đúng ra phải đãi thịt chó, dân Đại Hàn khoái thịt chó
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8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
KatN wrote: Hotel được 1 phen lời to, mang đồ ăn nấu ra bán cho người khác mà vẫn được trả tiền
Chắc mí ông lớn bên VN vẩn bắt hotel đứng ra nấu và đải cho mí ổng và gia đình ăn à! Nhà hàng 0 được nhận tiền free đâu!
Có nhiều khách sạn overbooked và những quán hàng hy vọng được nhiều khách...bây giờ summit ended sớm thì mí nhà hàng kia chắc cũng lỗ.
ga10
8DonCo
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
ga10 wrote:KatN wrote: Hotel được 1 phen lời to, mang đồ ăn nấu ra bán cho người khác mà vẫn được trả tiền
Chắc mí ông lớn bên VN vẩn bắt hotel đứng ra nấu và đải cho mí ổng và gia đình ăn à! Nhà hàng 0 được nhận tiền free đâu!
Em không nghĩ vậy đâu chị, anh Ủn thì có thể không trả nhưng anh Trump là đầu xỏ world thì đâu có chuy^.n ăn ở free chị .
KatN
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Rồi, xem như đèn nhà ai nấy sáng , dân nhà ai nấy giàu , Nuke nhà ai nấy chế , dân nhà ai nấy cạp đất tiếp ..vv
Kokuyukai
Re: Trump & Ủn 0 ai chịu nhường ai!
Theo kết qua này thì TT Nam Hàn sanh buồn la đúng rồi, còn anh Nhật bổn ngoìa mặt giả đò buồn chớ trong lòng mở cờ trong bụng là có cơ hội nĩ non anh mẽo dụ khị cho bỏ cái hiến pháp chèn ép họ khg cho tập tạ.. bây giờ thì có thế lấy cớ anh BH đang duơng oai diệu võ hoã tiển NUke bày ra đầy xứ BH "thì phải cho chúng em tạp tạ nhi nhí chớ anh Mỹ"...
Nói nào ngay cái vụ này thì bé Ủn ôm đầu máu về theo kiểu "sạch túi sòng Las vegas" còn Trump về USA còn có nét gở bài cào bán cho tụi CS Vn 100 chiếc Boeing 737, 10 chiếc Dreamline 787... xem như ra khỏi sòng Las Vegas còn có chút tiền túi đi taxi về nhà..
Nói nào ngay cái vụ này thì bé Ủn ôm đầu máu về theo kiểu "sạch túi sòng Las vegas" còn Trump về USA còn có nét gở bài cào bán cho tụi CS Vn 100 chiếc Boeing 737, 10 chiếc Dreamline 787... xem như ra khỏi sòng Las Vegas còn có chút tiền túi đi taxi về nhà..
Kokuyukai
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