8DonCo wrote:1 cô lái xe trong "Car Pool" lane, cảnh sát thổi lại phạt vì có 1 người, cô ta nói 2 người , baby trong bụng nữa, Tối Cao Pháp Viện nói bào thai cũng là 1 mạng người 


She will fight for the ticket 

Who Qualifies for the Carpool Lane?
Unfortunately, this varies from state to state, making it a difficult question to answer. As a general rule, you are eligible if you have two or more people in the car. Often, carpool lanes will be separated into ‘2+’ or ‘3+’ lanes, which tells you how many people need to be in the car for you to use the lane. Depending on the state, you may also be eligible to drive solo in the lane if you drive a low-emissions vehicle like an electric or hybrid car.

Motorbikes and bicycles are also eligible in most states, although, in Ontario, a motorbike must have two passengers to qualify. Other exemptions include buses, police vehicles, ambulances, and other public service vehicles.

Pregnancy and Carpooling – The Court Cases
Believe it or not, there have been a few different court cases surrounding this issue! Let us take a look at a couple to see what the arguments were, and what the judge decided in each case:

Candace Dickinson
This is perhaps the most famous case. In November of 2005, 23-year-old Candace Dickinson was fined $367 for driving alone in the HOV lane. She fought the fine in court on the basis that her unborn child, who was just weeks away from the due date, counted as a passenger. Indeed, the baby was born just 13 days later. You can see where she was coming from; just two weeks later, the same child would suddenly be counted as a separate passenger.

This, however, is not unique to the case of carpooling. An unborn child also does not, for example, need a ticket to see a movie or travel by plane, whereas a baby does. Foetuses simply have different legal properties to babies. At the time, CBC quoted Sgt Dave Norton, who issued the ticket, as saying of Dickinson’s argument that it “would require officers to carry guns, radios and pregnancy testers, and I don’t think we want to go there.”

In this case, the judge ruled that an unborn foetus did not count as a passenger, since the legal definition of a passenger in this context is an individual who occupies a separate seat in the vehicle.

Sue Ann Yasger
This case, which happened in California way back in 1987, involved a woman who was five months pregnant. The main difference between this case and the case of Candace Dickinson was that the judge dismissed Yasger’s $52 fine “in the interest of justice.” The California Highway Patrol, however, did not accept the judgment, saying that they would continue to issue tickets for pregnant women driving in the carpool lane.

Yasger’s case was largely one of principle. According to the LA Times, she queued for 4 hours at the municipal court to post a bond with the same price as the fine itself. Yasger’s efforts were not in vain. Just a few months later, a woman named Diane Correl, who was given a ticket for the same reason, showed the judge a newspaper clipping about Yasger’s case, prompting the judge to drop that ticket as well!

Tu* Khoai wrote:2 separate cases.  1 was in 1987 where the judge dismissed the fine.  While the other was in 2005 where the judge would still issue the fine.  It's the toss up game of Justice .. This is back to the core of Roe V. Wade and the Supreme Court Decisions in 1973 then in 2022.

https://truecommuter.com/can-a-pregnant-woman-drive-in-the-carpool-lane/

Who Qualifies for the Carpool Lane?
Unfortunately, this varies from state to state, making it a difficult question to answer. As a general rule, you are eligible if you have two or more people in the car. Often, carpool lanes will be separated into ‘2+’ or ‘3+’ lanes, which tells you how many people need to be in the car for you to use the lane. Depending on the state, you may also be eligible to drive solo in the lane if you drive a low-emissions vehicle like an electric or hybrid car.

Motorbikes and bicycles are also eligible in most states, although, in Ontario, a motorbike must have two passengers to qualify. Other exemptions include buses, police vehicles, ambulances, and other public service vehicles.

Pregnancy and Carpooling – The Court Cases
Believe it or not, there have been a few different court cases surrounding this issue! Let us take a look at a couple to see what the arguments were, and what the judge decided in each case:

Candace Dickinson
This is perhaps the most famous case. In November of 2005, 23-year-old Candace Dickinson was fined $367 for driving alone in the HOV lane. She fought the fine in court on the basis that her unborn child, who was just weeks away from the due date, counted as a passenger. Indeed, the baby was born just 13 days later. You can see where she was coming from; just two weeks later, the same child would suddenly be counted as a separate passenger.

This, however, is not unique to the case of carpooling. An unborn child also does not, for example, need a ticket to see a movie or travel by plane, whereas a baby does. Foetuses simply have different legal properties to babies. At the time, CBC quoted Sgt Dave Norton, who issued the ticket, as saying of Dickinson’s argument that it “would require officers to carry guns, radios and pregnancy testers, and I don’t think we want to go there.”

In this case, the judge ruled that an unborn foetus did not count as a passenger, since the legal definition of a passenger in this context is an individual who occupies a separate seat in the vehicle.

Sue Ann Yasger
This case, which happened in California way back in 1987, involved a woman who was five months pregnant. The main difference between this case and the case of Candace Dickinson was that the judge dismissed Yasger’s $52 fine “in the interest of justice.” The California Highway Patrol, however, did not accept the judgment, saying that they would continue to issue tickets for pregnant women driving in the carpool lane.

Yasger’s case was largely one of principle. According to the LA Times, she queued for 4 hours at the municipal court to post a bond with the same price as the fine itself. Yasger’s efforts were not in vain. Just a few months later, a woman named Diane Correl, who was given a ticket for the same reason, showed the judge a newspaper clipping about Yasger’s case, prompting the judge to drop that ticket as well!

TuTu wrote:vay đi coi movie thi` preg women at 5months or more  mua 2 ve' nha .
đi xe bus mua 2 vé luôn .
đi ăn buffet thì trả 2 phần , 1 adult , 1 con cho con nít ....


thiệt tình bó tay ví mí bà lý sư. .

8DonCo wrote:1 cô lái xe trong "Car Pool" lane, cảnh sát thổi lại phạt vì có 1 người, cô ta nói 2 người , baby trong bụng nữa, Tối Cao Pháp Viện nói bào thai cũng là 1 mạng người 


She will fight for the ticket 

hoàng tử lưng gù wrote:Theo tôi nghĩ trong trường hợp người phụ nữ có thai, và đứa nhỏ sắp ra đời, lái xe trong carpool lane nên được xem là 2 người.  Người phụ nữ có thai lái xe phải đối diện với nhiều vấn đề từ sức khoẻ cho đến sự nguy hiểm cho thai nhi và bản thân in heavy traffic,  bởi vì thai nhi có thể ra đời bất cứ lúc nào.

nhatrangdep wrote:

hoàng tử lưng gù wrote:Theo tôi nghĩ trong trường hợp người phụ nữ có thai, và đứa nhỏ sắp ra đời, lái xe trong carpool lane nên được xem là 2 người.  Người phụ nữ có thai lái xe phải đối diện với nhiều vấn đề từ sức khoẻ cho đến sự nguy hiểm cho thai nhi và bản thân in heavy traffic,  bởi vì thai nhi có thể ra đời bất cứ lúc nào.

bản thân chị không thích lái lane carpool vì lái quá nhanh và chị là dân sợ lái vèo vèo ..
chị thấy lái lane carpool nguy hiểm hơn

8DonCo wrote:1 cô lái xe trong "Car Pool" lane, cảnh sát thổi lại phạt vì có 1 người, cô ta nói 2 người , baby trong bụng nữa, Tối Cao Pháp Viện nói bào thai cũng là 1 mạng người 


She will fight for the ticket